Time for another post Dissection I do believe. Forgive me if I'm a bit
rusty.

<<<Your post, i'm afried, is either ever so terribly complicated beyond
comprehension for my simplistic mortal mind, or just full of holes and a
poor attempt at propoganda. Thats the basic thesis this quick response
is showing. Read and understand.>>>
Propaganda is the attempt to sway opinion in favor of one argument for
another. Now I can't say that it's not propaganda.. But I will say that
it's propaganda torwards my beliefs. I call 'em as I see 'em, and my
post was simply saying what I believe.

<<<As Guildmaster of the Magi, i am in control of the Enchantment
skillset, more or less.>>>
True

<<<This means that while we, the Magi, choose to give the Aetolians our
services at a price, and even discounted it recently, it does not mean
that we must.>>>
True

<<<If you get yourself enemied to the Magi Guild, you would find a hard
time getting a worry stone, much less a full array of our creations.>>>
True again, I and I think I understand where you're going with this.

<<<As simple as that, the Druids and the Sentinels control the
Concoctions skillset to a degree. Thier act is not one of hostility.>>>
This is where you lose me. You go from... "If *you* get enemied to the
Magi, you can't get enchantments" to.. "If someone does a bad thing
against the Druids and Sentinels, nobody can get anything." Now I know
that my brain's a bit decomposed and what not.. But I fail to see the
link between these two completely opposing views. I'm advocating an
assasult on the Forest because of their actions against Aetolia as a
whole.

<<<It is a well mesured, rational one.>>>
Rational meaning hundreds of people are punished for the actions of a
few. Got it

<<<I will do my best to explain as well as my, once again, simplistic
mortal mind, allows.>>>
Now see you don't have to be sarcastic. I don't hide that I rather look
down upon Mortals, but I'm not going to all out taunt you for your
shortcomings. Tone it down chap.

<<<Any person, be they simplistic, mortal, or possessing anything above
the intellegence of the common slug will understand that a herb ban on
the fighters currently opposing Nature alone will not work.>>>
And an herb ban.. PERIOD.. won't work. At all. Nada, zero, zilch.

<<<Sentence snipped. No response to comment regarding newbies>>>
<<<Therefor, anything short of a wide ban means the Guilds are supplying
thier enemies.>>>
They're supplying their enemies anyways, just not officially. There is
no way to promote a completely secure herb ban, based upon the way that
herbs are gathered. If the system were more like Enchantment, where
access could be limited.. Then it would be possible. But access is not
limited, and loyalty is not absolute.

<<<Would you do that? Prehaps you would, in your supernatural
intellegence due to motives and a superb annalytical thought process
which we do not possess. However, us mortals are not as dumb to do such
a thing. Err. Smart.>>>
Again.. With the insults and the sarcasm. Any "insults" you draw from my
previous posts are not attempts to anger anyone. I'm merely explaining
that's how things are. Just like I'm a very very tall Rajamala. Life is
how it is. In regards to your question, no I would not supply the enemy.
But I would comprehend that attempting to stop the supply flow to the
enemy is completely impossible.

<<<This next paragraph is to completely assinine to even attempt to
interpret, as he's obviously looking for a fight.>>>

<<<First of all, i dont agree with what Haern is doing right now. But he
is the God of Nature. And i heard him say one thing i agree with. 'I
will not argue My teachings to someone who hasnt even made the effort to
learn of them.'>>>
That's fine. I'm not arguing for or against Haern. I'm arguing against
the flagrantly foolish definition of Nature set forth by Margali's post.
It is my believe that Nature encompasses far more then the forests and
creatures within, so to say that only "protectors of Nature" get herbs
is wrong. Perhaps Lord Haern might enlighten me.

<<<Being the God of the Hunt, which is a part of nature, as any common
person who has a basic grasp of the -natural- food chain will tell you,
means killing more then the odd pixie and imp.>>>
This doesn't make a whole lot of sense.. "Being the God of the Hunt,
which is a part of nature" and then you break into a rail regarding the
food chain. Now I've got far more then a basic grasp of the food chain,
as I'm mostly near the top. However... The idea that someone is
absolutely and completely REQUIRED to kill pixies and imps is umm..
foolish. Do you HAVE to kill pixies and imps? No. Is the option there?
Yes. If you kill a pixie and an imp, are you a protector of Nature? In
my opinion, no, you're a killer of nature.

<<<So the attempt at depicting our Druid and Sentinel fellows as enemies
to nature themselves because they take thier role in it fails
miserably.>>>
You're going on a tangent. I never argued they were enemies to nature,
just that they were not complete and total protectors of Nature. They
are filling their role, and I will completely and unarguably agree with
that. However I also claim that they kill parts of nature. It may be
their role, but they are not total protectors of Nature.

<<<Being an enemy to nature, according to my limited grasp, as i am
merely a Gardner of Duiran, alabit a proud one, means working against
the -NATURAL- order of things. Such things as exterminations count.>>>
This is continuing to delve into the idea of "what is Nature?". Are not
death and destruction a part of nature? I believe so, and as such I
believe extermination a part of the natural order. Again this is merely
my quasi-immortal view on things, and Lord Haern holds the final
decision.

<<<And yes. I'm sure you can kill most of us in one on one combat. Thats
wounderfull. It really is. I'm sure it grants your life meaning.>>>
Actually old bean, while it did give my life meaning, it doesn't
anymore. And I do not kill anymore, my beliefs and desires have
transcended past such petty needs.

<<<But trying to persuade the rest of Aetolia to follow... at least make
your propoganda worthwhile, please. Respect the stupid mortals, they
might not be as simple as you think if you aim that low. >>>
I'm not sure. I believe my post was well written, and accurate. Perhaps
Lady Iosyne could tell me if my propaganda was worthwhile or not.

<<<On an off note, i find your attempts at declaring yourself to work
for cooperation beetwin mortals and the undead amusing at the most,
considering the arrogant tone that waftes from your post by the gallon,
or at least seems to.>>>
I consider myself above Mortals, just like most Mortals consider
themselves above say.. monkeys. I consider myself superior. Does that
mean that I should not strive to cooperate with the other sentient
species that inhabit this planet? No. It merely means I view myself as
above them, and realize that strife between the Undead and Mortals is
not necessary.

Perhaps you should go back to your tomes, as words are not your best
weapon Methuselah.

Jaeharn Al`kaern

Penned by my hand on the 4th of Variach, in the year 71 MA.